Boundless Founder and CEO Michele Demers was featured on the My Climate Journey Podcast hosted by Jason Jacobs. She discusses the unique Boundless approach to climate data measurement as well as the future of climate data disclosure.

"We're seen as a true third party assessor of environmental performance. And we always bring in an independent expert that has no connection with the company, they have no contact with the company. They review the data, they put a report at the end of our report, they do an independent review of our report. And so we abide by certain aspects of life cycle assessment that traditional consulting firms can't always do because of the nature of their business. So the other side of the coin are these AI based tools that are very data driven and that are working with a lot of the conventional data sets out there that we see ourselves as different than because they are using a lot of traditional data sets like the government data sets like the GREET Model or the WARM Model or the ecoinvent database. But we always supplement that with our own industry research and we update all of our benchmarks because we have our own proprietary data sets.

But the biggest problem with the AI based tools is they are relying too heavily on self-reported data. They're not actually validating performance. You need a human being to look at that data and to actually give it a sniff test. We've always said, even though we're raising around and investors in us want us to automate as much as we can and we're going to, we're going to automate the way we collect data, we're going to automate the way that we produce our reports, but we're not going to ever lose that expert reviewing that data independently and making sure.”

- Michele Demers, on the My Climate Journey Podcast